Phil
You just keep on attempting to circumscribe your neighbor’s liberty, keep excusing it by asserting that we would ineluctably become addicted and that we’re incapable of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Keep drinking the formerly-prohibited drug (and keep referring to “drugs and alcohol” as though the latter were not one of the former) and keep denying that you’re a hypocrite, because you engage in RECREATIONAL USE of your drug of choice, but you attempt to deny others the same right to “Pursuit of Happiness” by means of other drugs, which, the ONDCP “Sciiiiientists” gull you into believing, cause “Haaaaarm to Sociiiiiety”.
Again I tell you, the only way to “win” your Holy “War On Drugs” is, absit omen, to empower the DEA to indiscriminately interrogate and conduct body-cavity searches on every single citizen of the Land of the Formerly-Free, to peruse our bank accounts, to search our houses and cars and property. Until you do that, you will only make illegal drugs more scarce, the price will rise commensurately, and more people will be more tempted to make a quicker thousand, hundred thousand, million bucks. More violence will ensue and the blood will be, as it is now, on the hands of you prohibitionists.
John Ray
Phil responded, and I to his response:
On 8/31/06 12:50 PM, “The Phil Valentine Show”
wrote:
> John,
>
> In 1975, 17 percent of people had used an illegal drug in the last 30 days.
> By 2000, that figure was down to 5 percent. For all you guys who think we’re
> not winning the war on drugs, look at the facts. I would call 95 percent of
> Americans not using illegal drugs on a regular basis a victory.
>
> Phil
>
Point 1: According to whom? According to the same government thugs whose jobs depend on convincing you suckers that their jobs are worthwhile. I doubt your “statistics”.
Point 2: Even if your outlandish statistics were true, so what? You Prohibitionists are successfully circumscribing your neighbors’ liberty. How can you justify your Pyrrhic Victory, which cost more than $40 Billion dollars last year just in money the government admits to having spent? Of course they don’t tell us how or how much money is spent by those Upright Paragons in the CIA, their use of “Mycoherbicides” on fields in South America, the bribes they offer to various “Strongman” politicians down there. Add to that the costs to real people, the time taken from work to defend ourselves against charges frivolously brought by the DEA, the property confiscated and never returned simply because the thugs suspect (or at least say they suspect) it was bought with drug money, other costs too numerous to list here such as a very reasonable aversion to tell our anesthesiologists of recent drug use- they just might rat us out.
Point 3: The “Scientists” gather their “Statistics” by interrogating suspects who have been caught doing stupid things. They have every reason to tell the authorities what they want to hear, and they have no scientific basis to say, “The marijuana made me do it”, let alone any scientific training at all, in most cases. They’re stupid or they wouldn’t be caught. You rashly extrapolate from the datum that those who are caught are stupid, to the outlandish conclusion that all who use drugs must be stupid. Just how is it, then, that I’m the one who’s fluent in Japanese??
The “Scientists” also gather “Statistics” from “anonymous” questionnaires, which nobody believes are anonymous, given to high school students. Oh sure, they’ll answer honestly. Sucker.
The ONDCP gathers “Statistics” from jailbirds and high school students, but if we were to tell the truth about our drug use, our words could be used to put us in jail; convenient, no?
Point 4: Again stretching credulity beyond the breaking point, let’s assume that only 5% have used illegal drugs in the past 30 days. You’re “winning” your “Holy War On Drugs”. Does that mean that you’ve truly done the Right Thing? Do you imagine that God is Smiling down on you, just because you have prohibited your fellow man from engaging in the “Sin” of “Recreation” by means of an herb the He Created in the first place? And don’t try that unadulterated BS about stronger and stronger pot: if God didn’t Bless each plant, it wouldn’t grow anyway, and Sinsemilla pot was every bit as strong in 1975 as it is today.
I have not used any illegal drug in more than 30 days. Does this mean you’ve “won”? I warrant one thing: if ever there were some disaster and you were the second-to-last person alive, and I the last, you wouldn’t be nearly so smug about telling me what I may and may not do, at least not more than once.
Point 5: You didn’t address a single point in the letter I sent yesterday, you basically said, “naah, naah, we prohibitionists are winning” and gave one truly unbelievable “Statistic” to back your claim. Why don’t you address the points I raised? I’ll tell you why, you don’t want your “conservative” kool-aid drinkers to feel “Un-comfortable”, because it would negatively affect your precious Arbitron Ratings.
John Ray
Again Phil responded, and I again responded to him:On 8/31/06 4:22 PM, “The Phil Valentine Show”
wrote:
> John,
>
> Just read the chapter in my first book, Right From The Heart, on drug
> legalization. The stats are overwhelming. We’d have a nation of addicts if
> you had your way. Thank God the people aren’t that stupid.
>
> Phil
>
That’s precisely what the alcohol prohibitionists said before the US Supreme Court (how’s that for gravitas??) ruled that alcohol prohibition is Unconstitutional. Of course we didn’t hear a word from the prohibitionists when the people, who were supposed to be besotted derelicts in alleys, a “nation of addicts”, went on to win World War II. To this day the prohibitionists haven’t admitted that most people can and do use alcohol responsibly, and the laws for the most part deal adequately with those who do act irresponsibly, whether they are under the influence of alcohol or any other drug or no drug at all.
Maybe you need the government to protect you from yourself, I don’t. Furthermore, what danger does, for instance, Willie Nelson pose to society? What about all the professional athletes who smoke pot and have the temerity to excel despite the direst predictions of those sycophants you call “scientists”?
I’m sure there are enough “Statistics” in the aptly-named “Right From The Heart”. Now it’s time to use your HEAD in addition to your heart: the Black Market exists for the single purpose of subverting Prohibition Laws. Unless and until those laws are either abolished, or (again I say, ‘absit omen’) enforced with ABSOLUTE authority, the Black Market will continue to exist. Are you ready for that body-cavity examination?? Or do you want the law to apply to me but not to you? Probably.
If you call Prohibition “Freedom”, I abhor your version of “Freedom”. If you call Personal Responsibility “Docile willingness to do as one is told”, you can keep that too. Of course, you do call Ubiquitous Availability “Victory in the War On Drugs”, so you probably called your recent trip to Vegas “Winning” too.
John Ray
I didn’t hear from Phil for a while, so I sent him a little goad:
This is an excerpt from stopthedrugwar.org’s story about this year’s Seattle Hempfest:
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Still, the ranks of the pro-marijuana legalization forces are growing, and who better to demonstrate that than [Seattle’s] former police chief, Norm Stamper?
Stamper, a member of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, has emerged as a leading police critic of the drug war and certainly warranted the main stage speaking slot (among others) he got. Seattlites who remember Stamper primarily as the head cop during the World Trade Organization riots in 1999 were in for a surprise.
Stamper talked about police officers he knew or commanded who were killed or injured enforcing the drug laws, and he talked about the futility of that policy. “It’s laughable when people say we are winning the drug war,” he said. “We need to legalize all drugs. Police should be focused on violent crime,” he told the crowd.
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Keep on winning, Phil, just as you’re winning now, and before long we’ll once again live in the Land of the Free. Then, ten years or so down the road, when we win another World War in spite of your foolish prediction that we’ll be “a nation of addicts”, you too can pretend you never said anything of the sort. History will repeat itself, while you mindlessly recite Santayana’s apothegm about being “doomed to repeat” the history you’ve so thoroughly forgotten.
John Ray